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== Template:In category ==
Template:In_category seems to be missing certain things. For example, on the Modding: Overview, the page [[Modding: Maps]] is not included even though it's in the Modding category.
[[User:Egocarib|egocarib]] ([[User talk:Egocarib|talk]]) 02:35, 7 September 2019 (UTC)


== PV article notes ==
== PV article notes ==

Revision as of 02:35, 7 September 2019

Template:In category

Template:In_category seems to be missing certain things. For example, on the Modding: Overview, the page Modding: Maps is not included even though it's in the Modding category.

egocarib (talk) 02:35, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

PV article notes

I think the PV article math is not quite correct, but I'm not sure how to update it. Mostly because I don't know how to make probability formulas. :) I just kind of math it together piece by piece. I'll admit I don't have a very good understanding of probabilities and I don't know how to make this into a true probability "distribution" that adds up to 100.

Was hoping you could help.

Perhaps the issue right now is that the PV article assumes a PV equation of [Penetration Roll] = 1d10 + PV? That's not quite right, as described in the Melee combat article. The dice roll in there is actually 1d10-2, and it has a chance to chain-roll if the maximum value (8) is rolled, adding another roll onto that. This has a few implications:

  • The chance of 5 penetrations is not 0 as currently indicated in the PV article. Theoretically you could have an infinite number of penetrations, the probability just approaches 0 and gets really small.
  • The other numbers seem close to what I calculated but not quite the same. Here's what I came up with and my notes. I don't know if the notes will make sense to you, but feel free to DM me if you wanna chat about it :P
Penetrate at least this many times Chance with vibro (PV == AV) Chance with sharp vibro (PV == (AV + 1))
1 99.2% 99.9%
2 47.9232% 70.9317%
3 8.6704% 21.8791%
4 0.3454% 2.0535%
5 0.0013% 0.0229%


My weird notes



VIBRO - NORMAL (Assume 10 AV and 10 PV)
	99.2% - penetrate at least once
	51.2% - all three rolls made, get a chance to do second roll with 8 bonus
		93.6% - penetrate twice
		21.6% - all three rolls made, get a chance to do third roll with 6 bonus
			78.4% - penetrate 3 times
			 6.4% - all three rolls made, get a chance to do fourth roll with 4 bonus
			 	48.8% - penetrate 4 times
			 	 0.8% - all three rolls made, get a chance to do fifth roll with 2 bonus
			 	     22.1312% - penetrate 5 times
			 	      0.0512% - all three rolls made, get a chance to do 6th roll with 0 bonus

VIBRO - NORMAL
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99.2%     = 99.2% to penetrate once

51.2% *
 93.6%    = 47.9232% to penetrate twice

51.2% *
 21.6% *
  78.4%   = 8.6704% to penetrate three times

51.2% *
 21.6% *
  6.4% *
   48.8%  = 0.3454% to penetrate four times 

51.2% *
 21.6% *
  6.4% *
   0.8% *
    22.1312% = 0.0013% to penetrate five times



WITH SHARP (Assume 10 AV and 11 PV)
     99.9% - penetrate at least once
     72.9%  - get to second pen roll with 9 bonus
     	97.3% chance to penetrate at least once on this second roll
     	34.3% chance to get a third pen roll with 7 bonus
     		87.5% chance to penetrate at least once on this third roll
     		12.5% chance to get a fourth pen roll with 5 bonus
     			65.7% chance to penetrate at least once on this fourth roll
     			2.7% chance to get a fifth pen roll with 3 bonus
     				27.1% chance to penetrate at least once on this fifth roll
     				 0.1% chance to get a sixth pen roll with 1 bonus
	     				27.1% chance to penetrate at least once on this sixth roll
	     				 0.1% chance to get a sixth pen roll with -1 bonus

VIBRO + SHARP
---------------
99.9%     = 99.9% to penetrate once

72.9%
 97.3%    = 70.9317% to penetrate twice

72.9% *
 34.3% *
  87.5%   = 21.8791% to penetrate thrice

72.9% *
 34.3% *
  12.5% *
   65.7%  =  2.0535% to penetrate 4x

72.9% *
 34.3% *
  12.5% *
   2.7% *
    27.1% =  0.0229% to penetrate 5x