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The outcome of this quest is dynamically generated and based only on the player's choices in the quest. There is no correct answer, as whatever is chosen will be the truth. However, who is Hindriach and the future of Bey Lah is altered depending on the four choices that a player chooses.
The player's choices made during Kith and Kin can alter not only the fate of the characters involved, but the entire village's future, including the decision of who will be Hindriarch.
There are keywords that will be used throughout:
 
*'''Circumstance''':The supporting evidence, as explained by Angohind
The final outcome is determined by three main factors{{Code Reference|namespace=XRL.World.Parts|class=HindrenQuestOutcome}}: the accused thief, {{favilink|Bey Lah}}'s climate, and whether [[Love and Fear]] was completed prior to this quest (by delivering the {{favilink|crumpled sheet of paper|love letter}}).
*'''Motive''': The evidence that indicts a thief. (or implicating evidence, according to Angohind)
 
*'''Thief''': The thief accused.
==Climate==
*'''Climate''':The overall mood of Bey Lah.
Climate represents the overall mood of Bey Lah. Its value depends on the influence of the Circumstance and Motive clues used to accuse the thief:
===Circumstance===
* If both are Trade or Craft, the climate is {{qud char|&G|Prosperous}}.
{| class="wikitable sortable"
* If both are Illness or Violence, the climate is {{qud char|&r|Tumultuous}}.
! Note
* Otherwise, the climate is {{qud char|&y|Mixed}}.
! Type
! Found
|-
|I found a small leatherworking hammer on the paths, a sign of recent craft.
| Craft
| Found lying on the ground.
|-
|I found a few scraps from some kind of leatherworking project, a sign of recent craft.
| Craft
| Found on the ground.
|-
| The scouts have heard someone doing work with tools late at night, indicating recent craft.
| Craft
| Found talking to hindren scouts.
|-
| Someone discarded a worn but still functional leather bracer on the paths, a sign of recent craft.
| Craft
| Found lying on the ground.
|-
| Someone left a sealed merchant's waterskin on the paths, a sign of recent trade.
| Trade
| found lying on the ground.
|-
|I discovered a footprint from a great saltback on the paths, a sign of recent trade.
| Trade
| Found by looking at it on the ground.
|-
|Someone dropped a copper nugget on the paths, a sign of recent trade.
| Trade
| Found on the ground.
|-
| Faundren saw a merchant from outside the village sneaking around, indicating recent trade.
| Trade
| Found by talking to the faundren.
|-
| The villagers are on edge due to rumors of sore throats in the village, indicating recent illness.
| Illness
| Speaking to the villagers
|-
| The faundren are complaining about the smell of yuckwheat tea, indicating illness.
| Illness
| speaking to the faundren.
|-
| I found a detached tongue on the ground, rotted with infection: a sign of recent illness.
| Illness
| lying on the ground.
|-
| I found the discarded husks of the curative yuckwheat plant, a sign of recent illness.
| Illness
| Found on the ground.
|-
| I found a weapon haft, broken from use, on the paths, a sign of recent violence.
| Violence
| found on the ground.
|-
|I discovered a patch of watervine stained red with blood, a sign of recent violence.
| Violence
| found by examining a bloody watervine
|-
| I found a bloody patch of fur near the village paths, a sign of recent violence.
| Violence
| found on the ground.
|-
| One villager was frightened by sounds of fighting at night, indicating recent violence.
| Violence
| found by speaking to the villagers.
|}


===Motive===
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Note
! Type
! Accusing
! Found
|-
| Apparently, the Hindriarch isolated herself to work on a mystery project possibly to hide Kindrish.
| Craft
| Keh
| found talking to villagers.
|-
| Rumor has it that the village is flush with water, perhaps because Keh made a big trade.
| Trade
| Keh
| found talking to the villagers.
|-
|I found an empty injector near the Hindriarch's bedroll. Why doesn't anyone know she was sick?
| Illness
| Keh
| found lying near Hindriarch Keh's bedroll.
|-
| I found a bloody arrow on the paths of Bey Lah. Its fletching resembles the ones found in Hindriarch Keh's quiver.
| Violence
| Keh
| found on the ground
|-
| The faundren claim that Eskhind left the village sporting a poorly-made leather bracer, possibly to conceal Kindrish.
| Craft
| Eskhind
| Found by asking the villagers
|-
|I found the village stores of Bey Lah untouched; Eskhind must have traded something for her basics.
| Trade
| Eskhind
| Found looking at the village stores (a chest in the house Neelahind is next to)
|-
| The faundren tell me that Eskhind's sister had a period of complete silence; she may have been ill.
| Illness
| Eskhind
| Found by asking the faundren.
|-
| Eskhind is showing signs of a leg injury. Perhaps she was in a fight.
| Violence
| Eskhind
| found by examining/looking at Eskhind.
|-
| Rumor has it that Kesehind has always worn hand-me-down armor, but he was recently seen with a brand new set.
| Craft
| Kesehind
| found by talking to the villagers.
|-
| I found a worn-out bracer abandoned near Kesehind's bedroll
| Trade
| Kesehind
| found on the ground near Kesehind's bedroll.
|-
| The faundren tell me that Kesehind went quiet for a few weeks, only to become louder than ever again.
| Illness
| Kesehind
| Found by talking to the faundren.
|-
| Kesehind tried to clean blood off his armor, but missed a spot.
| Violence
| Kesehind
| Found by looking at Kesehind, and he is covered in blood.
|-
|I found a set of foreign leatherworking tools on the village paths. A kendren crafter has been here.
| Craft
| Kendren
| found lying on the ground.
|-
| The scouts have seen kendren treasure hunters about. That type will take anything not nailed down.
| Trade
| Kendren
| Found by talking to the hindren scouts.
|-
| Theft by kendren is very common during an outbreak of disease like the ones the villagers describe.
| Illness
| Kendren
| Found by asking the villagers
|-
| The Bey Lah scouts have had trouble with violent kendren. What if one slipped by?
| Violence
| Kendren
| found by talking to the scouts.
|}
===Climate===
Climate has three different values depending on the Circumstance and the Motive. If both are either Trade or Craft, the climate is Prosperous. If both are either Illness or Violence, the climate is Tumultuous. Else, the climate is mixed.
{|class = "wikitable"
{|class = "wikitable"
!Motive\Circumstance
!Motive\Circumstance
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! Illness
|-
|-
!Trade
! Trade
| {{qud char|&G|Prosperous}}
| {{qud char|&G|Prosperous}}
| {{qud char|&G|Prosperous}}
| {{qud char|&G|Prosperous}}
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! Violence
! Violence
| {{qud char|&y|Mixed}}
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| {{qud char|&r|Tumultuous}}
|-
|-
!Illness
! Illness
| {{qud char|&y|Mixed}}
| {{qud char|&y|Mixed}}
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| {{qud char|&y|Mixed}}
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|}
|}
===Thief===
The thief can be 4 different characters: [[Hindriarch Keh]],[[Kesehind]], [[Eskhind]], or a kendren(an outsider).


However, they cannot be accused by certain clues. Doing a poor accusation prevents you from accusing them again.
The climate directly has an effect on, but should not be confused with, the [[#Village Outcome|village's outcome]].
 
==Outcome==
===Individual Character Outcome===


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
!Possible Thief
!Thief\Letter Delivered
!Cannot be accused with
!Not Delivered
|-
!Delivered
|Kendren
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
| Bloody patch of fur, seeing a trader, sore throats in the village, missing leather stores, worn bracer
! Keh
| Keh Exiled
| Keh Exiled
|-
|-
|Kesehind
! Esk
|Splintered Weapon Haft, Talking late at night, smell of Yuckwheat tea, Sound of crafting at night
| Eskhind remains in exile
| Eskhind remains in exile</br>Neelahind joins Eskhind in exile
|-
|-
|Eskhind
! Kese
| Bloody watervine, bulging waterskin, great saltback print, pool of putrescence, foreign leatherworking tools
| Kesehind is exiled
| (Only if climate is Tumultuous. Else it is treated as if the love letter was never given): Eskhind remains in exile
Neelahind joins Eskhind</br>
|-
|-
|Keh
! Kendren
| heard infighting, heard loud splashing, scratched copper nugget, severed tongue, leather scraps
| Eskhind remains in exile
| Eskhind remains in exile</br>Neelahind joins Eskhind in exile
|}
|}


===Outcome===
===Hindriarch===
After 3 days (3,600 turns) after completing Kith and Kin, the village will undergo its outcome depending on the player's choices.
Who is chosen to be Hindriarch after the events of the accusation is either Eskhind or Keh. This depends on several things.
====Prosperous====
 
+200 rep with the hindren of Bey Lah
Esk will be Hindriarch if either is true:
{| class="wikitable"
 
!Motive\Thief
* The climate is anything other than tumultuous (in mixed/prosperous climate)
!Keh
* The accused thief is Keh  
!Esk
* Kesehind is the thief and the love letter wasn't delivered (If it is, Eskhind will remain exiled)
!Kese
 
!Kendren
Else, it is Keh.
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
 
!Craft
===Village Outcome===
| {{qud char|&amp;G|Village prospers}}
The basic logic of whether the village survives can be simplified into one or two checks based on the climate:
*Keh Exiled
{|
*Eskhind is Hindriarch
!Prosperous
*Neelahind stays
!Mixed
*Kesehind loses weapon
!Tumultuous
| Village survives
*Keh stays in power
*Neelahind leaves to join Eskhind in exile
|Village survives
*Kesehind is exiled
* Keh remains in power
* Eskhind is in exile,
* Neelahind stays in Bey Lah
| Village survives
* Keh is exiled
* Eshkhind is Hindriarch
* Neelahind stays
* Kesehind loses weapon
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
!Trade
| If Eskhind is the thief and the love letter is given, or the thief is Kesehind without the love letter given, it will survive. else, it will prosper.
| {{qud char|&amp;G|Village prospers}}
| If Keh is the thief and the love letter was delivered, it will prosper. Else, it will survive.
* Keh exiled
| If Keh is the thief and the love letter was delivered, it will survive. Else it will be ravaged.
*Eskhind is Hindriarch
*Kesehind loses weapon
| *Village lives
* Keh stays in power
*Neelahind leaves to join Eskhind in exile
|Village survives
*Kesehind is exiled
*Keh remains in power
*Eskhind is in exile
*Neelahind stays
|Village survives
*Keh is exiled
*Eshkhind is Hindriarch
*Kesehind loses weapon
|}
|}
====Mixed====
In all climates, accusing Keh with Love and Fear complete will always result in the best outcome compared to other possible results in that climate. When the village prospers, the trader [[Isahind]] will also start to trade Tier 2 wares. If the village is ravaged, the entire village will be on fire with hindren corpses littering the ground.
Getting a mixed climate give the player +100 reputation with the hindren of Bey Lah:
 
====Letter Delivered====
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
!Motive\Thief
!Thief\Climate
!Prosperous
!Mixed
!Tumultuous
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
!Keh
!Keh
!Esk
!Kese
!Kendren
|-  style="vertical-align:top;"
!Craft
| Village survives
*Keh Exiled
*Eskhind is Hindriarch
*Neelahind stays
*Kesehind loses weapon
| Village survives
*Keh stays in power
*Eskhind is abandoned by Neelahind
| {{qud char|&amp;r|Village ravaged}}
*Kesehind is exiled
*Keh remains in power
*Neelahind joins Eskhind in exile
| {{qud char|&amp;G|Village prospers}}
| {{qud char|&amp;G|Village prospers}}
*Keh is in power
*Eskhind remains in exile
*Neelahind stays
|-  style="vertical-align:top;"
!Trade
| {{qud char|&amp;G|Village prospers}}
| {{qud char|&amp;G|Village prospers}}
*Keh exiled
| {{qud char|&amp;C|Village survives}}
*Eskhind is Hindriarch
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
*Neelahind stays
! Esk
*Kesehind loses weapon
| {{qud char|&amp;C|Village survives}}
| {{qud char|&amp;C|Village survives}}
| {{qud char|&amp;R|Village ravaged}}
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
!Kese
| {{qud char|&amp;G|Village prospers}}
| {{qud char|&amp;G|Village prospers}}
*Keh stays in power
| {{qud char|&amp;C|Village survives}}
*Neelahind leaves to join Eskhind in exile
| {{qud char|&amp;R|Village ravaged}}
| {{qud char|&amp;r|Village ravaged}}
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
*Kesehind is exiled
! Kendren
*Keh remains in power
| |{{qud char|&amp;G|Village prospers}}
*Neelahind joins Eskhind in exile
| {{qud char|&amp;C|Village survives}}
| {{qud char|&amp;G|Village prospers}}
| {{qud char|&amp;R|Village ravaged}}
*Keh is exiled
*Eshkhind is Hindriarch
*Kesehind loses weapon
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
! Illness
|{{qud char|&amp;G|Village prospers}}
*Keh exiled
*Esk is Hindriarch
*Kesehind stripped of weapon
| {{qud char|&amp;r|Village collapses}}
*Keh stays
*Neelahind joins Eskhind in exile
|Village survives
*Kesehind is exiled
*Keh is exiled
*Eskhind is appointed Hindriarch
| {{qud char|&amp;r|Village collapses}}
*Keh stays in power
*Neelahind joins Eskhind in exile
|-  style="vertical-align:top;"
! Violence
|Village survives
*Keh exiled
*Eskhind is Hindriarch
*Kesehind stripped of weapon
|{{qud char|&amp;r|Village ravaged}}
*Eskhind is abandoned
*Neelahind stays
|Village survives
*Kesehind is exiled
*Keh exiled
*Eskhind is Hindriarch
|Village survives
*Keh exiled
*Eskhind is Hindriarch
*Neelahind stays
|}
|}
====Tumultuous====
====Letter is Not Delivered====
Getting a tumultuous climate will grant the player 0 reputation.
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
!Motive\Thief
!Thief\Climate
!Prosperous
!Mixed
!Tumultuous
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
!Keh
!Keh
!Eskhind
| {{qud char|&amp;G|Village prospers}}
!Kesehind
| {{qud char|&amp;C|Village survives}}
!Kendren
| {{qud char|&amp;R|Village ravaged}}
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
! Esk
| {{qud char|&amp;C|Village survives}}
| {{qud char|&amp;C|Village survives}}
| {{qud char|&amp;R|Village ravaged}}
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
! Illness
! Kese
| {{qud char|&amp;r|Village collapses}}
| {{qud char|&amp;C|Village survives}}
*Keh is exiled
| {{qud char|&amp;C|Village survives}}
*Neelhind stays
| {{qud char|&amp;R|Village ravaged}}
*Keshind stripped of weapon
| {{qud char|&amp;r|Village collapses}}
*Status quo remains
| {{qud char|&amp;r|Village ravaged}}  
*Kesehind is exiled
*Neelahind joins Eskhind in exile
|{{qud char|&amp;r|Village collapses}}
* Keh stays in power
*Neelahind joins Eskhind in exile
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
! Violence
! Kendren
| {{qud char|&amp;r|Village ravaged}}
| |{{qud char|&amp;G|Village prospers}}
*Keh is exiled
| {{qud char|&amp;C|Village survives}}
*Neelhind stays
| {{qud char|&amp;R|Village ravaged}}
*Keshind stripped of weapon
| {{qud char|&amp;r|Village ravaged}}
*Eskhind is abandoned
*Neelahind stays
| {{qud char|&amp;r|Village ravaged}}
*Neelahind joins Esk in exile,
*Keh disappears
| Village survives
*Keh exiled
*Eskhind is Hindriarch
*Neelahind stays
|}
|}


====Prosperity====
== Trivia ==
When the village prospers, the trader [[Isahind]] will also start to trade Tier 2 wares.
* Prior to the quest revamp, there was a chance for the village to collapse under the right accusation. If the village collapsed, the village would be covered in [[putrescence]] and hindren corpses, and the {{favilink|hindren afflicted}} that remained would be inflicted with [[Glotrot]]. This is no longer possible since the only result will choose ravaged instead.
====Collapse====
 
If the village collapses, the village will be covered in [[putrescence]] and hindren corpses, and the hindren you find will be inflicted with [[Glotrot]].
{{References|2.0.201.87}}
====Ravaged====
<references />
If the village is ravaged, the entire village will be on fire hindren corpses littering the ground.

Latest revision as of 20:52, 30 March 2022

The player's choices made during Kith and Kin can alter not only the fate of the characters involved, but the entire village's future, including the decision of who will be Hindriarch.

The final outcome is determined by three main factors[1]: the accused thief, Bey Lah's climate, and whether Love and Fear was completed prior to this quest (by delivering the love letter).

Climate

Climate represents the overall mood of Bey Lah. Its value depends on the influence of the Circumstance and Motive clues used to accuse the thief:

  • If both are Trade or Craft, the climate is Prosperous.
  • If both are Illness or Violence, the climate is Tumultuous.
  • Otherwise, the climate is Mixed.
Motive\Circumstance Trade Craft Violence Illness
Trade Prosperous Prosperous Mixed Mixed
Craft Prosperous Prosperous Mixed Mixed
Violence Mixed Mixed Tumultuous Tumultuous
Illness Mixed Mixed Tumultuous Tumultuous

The climate directly has an effect on, but should not be confused with, the village's outcome.

Outcome

Individual Character Outcome

Thief\Letter Delivered Not Delivered Delivered
Keh Keh Exiled Keh Exiled
Esk Eskhind remains in exile Eskhind remains in exile
Neelahind joins Eskhind in exile
Kese Kesehind is exiled (Only if climate is Tumultuous. Else it is treated as if the love letter was never given): Eskhind remains in exile

Neelahind joins Eskhind

Kendren Eskhind remains in exile Eskhind remains in exile
Neelahind joins Eskhind in exile

Hindriarch

Who is chosen to be Hindriarch after the events of the accusation is either Eskhind or Keh. This depends on several things.

Esk will be Hindriarch if either is true:

  • The climate is anything other than tumultuous (in mixed/prosperous climate)
  • The accused thief is Keh
  • Kesehind is the thief and the love letter wasn't delivered (If it is, Eskhind will remain exiled)

Else, it is Keh.

Village Outcome

The basic logic of whether the village survives can be simplified into one or two checks based on the climate:

Prosperous Mixed Tumultuous
If Eskhind is the thief and the love letter is given, or the thief is Kesehind without the love letter given, it will survive. else, it will prosper. If Keh is the thief and the love letter was delivered, it will prosper. Else, it will survive. If Keh is the thief and the love letter was delivered, it will survive. Else it will be ravaged.

In all climates, accusing Keh with Love and Fear complete will always result in the best outcome compared to other possible results in that climate. When the village prospers, the trader Isahind will also start to trade Tier 2 wares. If the village is ravaged, the entire village will be on fire with hindren corpses littering the ground.

Letter Delivered

Thief\Climate Prosperous Mixed Tumultuous
Keh Village prospers Village prospers Village survives
Esk Village survives Village survives Village ravaged
Kese Village prospers Village survives Village ravaged
Kendren Village prospers Village survives Village ravaged

Letter is Not Delivered

Thief\Climate Prosperous Mixed Tumultuous
Keh Village prospers Village survives Village ravaged
Esk Village survives Village survives Village ravaged
Kese Village survives Village survives Village ravaged
Kendren Village prospers Village survives Village ravaged

Trivia

  • Prior to the quest revamp, there was a chance for the village to collapse under the right accusation. If the village collapsed, the village would be covered in putrescence and hindren corpses, and the hindren afflicted that remained would be inflicted with Glotrot. This is no longer possible since the only result will choose ravaged instead.

References

This information is reliable as of patch 2.0.201.87.
  1. XRL.World.Parts.HindrenQuestOutcome